Aeromodellers of Logan City Inc.
Minutes of Management Meeting
Held on 12 August 2008 at the M Bar, Fitzys Loganholme
1. The meeting was opened at 1914h
2. Presidents Welcome: Welcome to the second meeting for the 2008-09 financial year.
3. Members Present: Peter Krenske, Peter Mills, Ross Stokes, Brian Cochrane, Mark Dillon
4. Apologies: nil. 
5. Minutes of previous meeting:
That the minutes of the previous meeting be accepted:
Moved: MD, Seconded: BC, Carried.
6. Business arising from previous minutes: 
carried over to General Business
7. Correspondence Inwards/Outwards: 
* Telephone 29 July: Call to Chris Lane from the Pollution Control Centre on or about 29 July, where the following points were noted: Chris Lane no longer works for the Pollution Control Centre; He suggested we try to get a lease, from LCC; He said it was quite likely that in 2 years out land would be given from the PCC to LCC, but that it would likely be rezoned from it's current usage.
* Telephone 29 July: Call to Julie Vogler from LCC Community Services, who said the LCC could not give us a lease, as we are under the jurisdiction of the PCC. When asked about the possible rezoning of our land, Julie could not comment, so as "not to predict a Council decision". Julie said if we find a potential new site, we could discuss it with her.
* Telephone 4 July: Call to PCC [Steve Walters as Vijay not available] regarding the new gate, and how many keys we would get. Steve said he thought 3; I said that was insufficient; Steve said that Vijay was in control of this, but not available. Steve recommended I speak with LCC Sports and Recreation regarding [1] the lease, and [2] keys.
* Telephone 4 July: Call to Sports and Recreation [Meagan] who said she couldn't help us as we're not on LCC property.
* Telephone 4 July: Call to Brian Cawardine of Gold Coast Model Flying Club, who said they'd be keen to get some CL members, although the field was overgrown. GCMFC are finding out in 2 weeks their future at their site, also due to the State takeover of their property.
* Letter OUT: 6 July: Another letter hand delivered to Bunnings Compton Road, requesting BBQ [last four letters lost].
* Email IN: from Darryl Gunst of LARCS on 4 August requesting ALC's input into a meeting with the Mayor RE future of our clubs in their present location.
* Email In: from Darryl Gunst of LARCS on 7 August requesting similar. 
* Email OUT: to Darryl Gunst on 10 August, saying that we'd respond to him following our next Management Meeting.
* Telephone 12 August: Call to Lorraine [front office, PCC] who said that in business hours, anyone without a gate key could press a button, and be buzzed through, whether to enter or exit. On weekends, we could have the mobile number of the duty manager. Said I should speak to Bill Smith.
* Telephone 12 August: Call to Bill Smith of PCC 3209 9155 [lives in the house next to ALC]. Bill theorized that the current ALC land would come over to the distribution company taking over the PCC - a business overseen by LCC and State Government. Would have own CEO, board, and shareholders. Bill said this takeover was in 2010, following which a committee would be setup to determine what land is for what, which would take several more years at least to come into effect, should there be any change to the current use by ALC. Bill said that'd probably give us at least quite a few more years at the current site. Regarding keys to the gate, Bill said there was a meeting between LARCS and the Head of Logan Water late last week, and no change yet. The gate will be coming on line this week. Bill said PCC would have to work quickly to get us an answer. I brought up the possibility of hiring a few metres of Bill's shipping container for purposes of housing the ALC mower. Bill said it belonged to a friend, whom he would ask. 
* Email OUT 12 August: to Phil Cooper, headmaster of Aviation High, regarding proposed display.
8. Business arising from correspondence: 
Carried over to general business.
9. Presidents Report: Z-Class good day, hope everyone got something out of it. Next stop Eastcoast Champs. 
10. Treasurers Report: $3483.88. Currently ALC has 16 members. Reminder: current and past Minutes and Treasurer's Reports and other documents can be accessed electronically at this website: http://mills.hopto.org/Control-line/ALC/documents
Moved: Peter Mills, Seconded: Peter Krenske, Carried.
11. PRO Report [Krenske]:
Suggestion made to AF cadets of display, ASAP, in Warwick.. in return for free glider flights. AF cadets currently do RC Aeromodelling, but pitch is to be made to AFC as regards F2D training. Use of Bunnings BBQ [Sunday 28th September] to promote. Display imminent at Aviation High.
12. Training Officers' Report. Reminder of Peter Mills' computer programme as a training tool. Need joystick port on old PC. Especially good for learning inverted technique. 
For use in the Cadets demo especially, a new "trainer" is sought, to allow newcomers to have a go on a respectable model - good for promotion. A two-handle training setup will be tried, as seen in Sweden, to be developed at ALC in the coming weeks.
13. Website Report: new homepage, lots of "news".
14. Water Report: current reading is between 1037 and 1038 kilolitres. 
15. Comp Secretary Report: Z-Class day went well, with 7 teams competing, as well as good spectator support. John Taylor/Trent McDermott were awarded the Ian Garton Memorial Trophy, which will now be kept by ALC Secretary, until next year. Need to engrave winners names. The general feeling is to keep Z-Class Rules as they are, and to run the event 3-4 times a year, maybe also at CLASII. 
Confirmed date for Eastcoast Champs, 4-5 October. Possible warm-up comp on the Friday afternoon. Entries on the day at $15 for first event, and $25 for both. Rules for F2D modified and 2.5cc QLD Slow??? 
16. General Business:
[a] Bunnings BBQ date: 28 September confirmed. PK spoke to Brett at Compton Road, who is sending out instructions. Jacki Bennett on leave. Bunnings supply everything but sausages, bread, and drinks, eskies, and ice. Bread can be ordered and delivered at Bunnings on the day [phone number to be provided]. Sausages and drinks to be purchased by ALC.
[b] 29 November for combat/xmas party at BBs place. 
[c] Club has purchased 60L of premix fuel. It is available at $6/litre, bottles byo. See PK. 
[e] To repeat, ALC club fees are decided: $160 Snr/Pnsnr, $65 Junior. Associate Membership therefore is $64. 
[f] PK proposes allowing $180 for purchase of a BB Mauler, for use as a trainer at displays. PK will supply powerplant for now. Seconded: md. Carried.
[g] PK raises the issue of the lack of directions for juniors in the sport. Suggests the development of a "Gold-Silver-Bronze Wing" system, or any other ideas! Maybe something that could provide a more formal week to week activity especially for juniors. Maybe something along the lines of Merv Cox's previous structure? Also, as a more formal tool for training newcomers, should we ever get any! 
[h] Do we need to promote more? F2D TV - a doco to be produced, or a series of shows, for Briz31? Our public profile is close to ZERO. Hobby Shops 0. TV 0. Phonebook 0. Our current location has zero drive-by factor, especially with the new gate. Internet, well our ALC site has functioned quite well as a tool, but do we need other outreaches? 
[i] Due to PK's new car having no towbar, a non-official offer of around $300p/a was offered to Bill Smith for storage of the ALC mower in his shipping container. We await a reply.
[j] We await a reply on the gate/key issue.
[k] Club keys. Allow for 4 to be cut, made of brass. 
[l] What do we currently want to do RE our location. Need to weigh-up opinions regarding...
- our future at Chetwynd St, according to the balance of the opinions voiced above.
- on balance, our current facilities are excellent, in terms of fields, pits, concrete circle, fencing...
- the likelyhood that if moved, we may be able to go down near LARCS, depending on future decisions.
- the increased difficulty of promoting a sport, when our fields can only be reached by those with a key...
- do we take the min. 2 year concept, and start looking for an alternate venue? or do we live in hope...
Can MAAQ represent us at the local level... to get an outcome where the waterboards and watergrids aren't going to affect our situation? Representation to State Member? 
17. Meeting Closed at 2045h